[Discuss] The Register: IBM, Red Hat face copyright, antitrust lawsuit from SCO Group successor Xinuos

Thu Apr 22 16:31:23 EDT 2021

Xenix kept crashing. And SCO Unix was just too big for the PS2. But, JABR's
waffle installation worked.

If I recall, xenix was initially a Microsoft product before they spun it
off to SCO.

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On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 4:21 PM John Abreau <jabr at blu.org> wrote:

> Now that I think about it, we also tried SCO Unix after trying Xenix; that
> may have been the one where I couldn't install sendmail. In any case, the
> DOS-based WAFFLE system was the system that we finally got working and that
> became the first BCS mail server.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 4:15 PM John Abreau <jabr at blu.org> wrote:
>
>> That's not entirely accurate. I attempted to build the first BCS mail
>> server on a Xenix system, but never got it working, as Xenix was neither
>> BSD nor System V, and the system we had didn't include any developer tools,
>> so I was unable to compile and install sendmail.
>>
>> I eventually dropped Xenix and installed a DOS BBS called WAFFLE that
>> exchanged email via UUCP and used Internet style RFC822 email addresses.
>> The WAFFLE system was our first mail server.
>>
>> A year later, Mike DeGenio, the BCS Resource Center Manager, approved my
>> request to use the NeXT machine in the BCS Resource Center to replace the
>> WAFFLE system. Originally we had planned on running it as the mail server
>> without removing it from use in the Resource Center, but then the
>> leadership of the BCS NeXT SIG unilaterally decided to sabotage the project
>> by locking me out of the system.
>>
>> To be fair, I had tried an experiment that broke the window system, and I
>> was too exhausted after a very long day at the BCS office to diagnose the
>> problem, so I figured I'd go home and fix it the next day when I was
>> rested. I emailed the NeXT SIG's leaders before I headed home to let them
>> know, and when I arrived the next day, I found they had sent me an email
>> demanding that I leave it alone and let them fix it. I didn't want to step
>> on any toes, so I left it to them. A few days later I discovered that they
>> locked me out by changing the root password and adding a BIOS lockout to
>> prevent single-user booting, but they didn't fix the window system.
>>
>> Mike DeGenio lost his temper after hearing about that, then he pulled the
>> machine out of the Resource Center entirely and told me to just make it a
>> dedicated mail server. Bypassing the BIOS lockout took about an hour of
>> digging through USENET for FAQs about the NeXT machine. After that, since I
>> wasn't overly tired, it took just a few minutes to figure out what went
>> wrong and to restore the window system.
>>
>> In any case, the NeXT machine was the second BCS mail server, and a year
>> later, after the BCS office moved from Cambridge to Waltham, we replaced
>> the NeXT machine with a Slackware Linux mail server.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 1:39 PM Jerry Feldman <gaf.linux at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The first BCS mail server was xenix then upgraded to Sco Unix. I had SCO
>>> Unix on my home computer years ago. I think the server was an unused IBM
>>> PS2.
>>>
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>>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021, 10:50 AM Bill Ricker <bill.n1vux at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Some of us are old enough to remember The Santa Cruz Operation was the
>>> > preferred provider of legally licensed System III Unix or Xenix.
>>> (Before
>>> > the Caldera folks did the reverse merge taking the good name.)
>>> >
>>> > We ran that on Onyx Z8000 for dev servers back when, and I had a client
>>> > with System III on a 386 with two 8xSerial cards.
>>> >
>>> > Alas this story of the zombie arising yet again to eat more brainz is
>>> on
>>> > too many sites to be April Fools but it should be!
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, Apr 1, 2021, 10:06 Jerry Feldman <gaf.linux at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> We remember the ongoing suit of SCO vs IBM which also was an attack on
>>> >> Linux. And we remember, The SCO Group which was originally the Linux
>>> >> distro
>>> >> Caldera. Many of us watched Groklaw religiously. I guess it is time
>>> for a
>>> >> new web site.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> The Register: IBM, Red Hat face copyright, antitrust lawsuit from SCO
>>> >> Group
>>> >> successor Xinuos.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2021/03/31/ibm_redhat_xinuos/
>>> >>
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