[Discuss] Remote builds (Re: SVN server - What hardware do I need?)
Derek Atkins
warlord at MIT.EDU
Tue Apr 23 12:29:45 EDT 2013
"Rich Braun" <richb at pioneer.ci.net> writes:
> In 2013, I changed jobs and am faced with the same toolchain (but this time on
> a django/python stack instead of java/tomcat; the sooner I can evict PyPI's
> 'pip install' from the building the happier I and everyone else will be!).
> For whatever reason, Jenkins or an equivalent build server hadn't yet been
> implemented so I've got a greenfield project and authorization to yank out
> whatever I want to yank out (assuming I can persuade developers to go
> along....;-)
>
> Right now, developers are expected to spend their first days (perhaps a couple
> of weeks) wrestling with getting a couple of VMs set up with vagrant on their
> MacBooks, dealing with permissions issues, and using that mess of code to
> install other masses of code on a dozen different Amazon EC2 instances.
Jenkins is pretty cool for system builds, but I'm not sure how well it
works for developer build & test builds. Unless you have Jenkins set up
such that each developer has their only build chain I still feel (as a
developer) that I need more control over my local build & test prior to
"commit/push". I.e., I want to be able to do a "local" build and run my
own local tests and debugging before I push my changes to a place where
others pick them up. I have not seen a Jenkins install/configuration
that supports that.
Jenkins is great for building feature branches, release branches, and
running automated packaging and testing. But I don't think it works
well for a developer build+test cycle where you might need to run
through a dozen or two compile & test cycles to make sure you've fixed
your bug.
In short, I think developers still need their own build (and test)
environments locally.
-derek
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