p2p, anonymity and security

[Ryan L. Kitchen]

<Snip>  I do think that you've by now many people think I'm homosexual--but
I'm just a regular guy.</Snip>



 

 

Not to be a dick, but is this guy now suggesting homosexuals are somehow
irregular? Should I go find a gay biker crowd to beat him down, AND THEN,
turn him over to the RIAA for a much needed 'ritual cleansing' ??

 

*wink*

 

Ryan K

 

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From: discuss-admin at blu.org [mailto:discuss-admin at blu.org] On Behalf Of Greg
Rundlett
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 12:52 PM
Cc: GNHLUG; discuss at blu.org
Subject: Re: p2p, anonymity and security

 



Derek Martin wrote:



My intention is explicitly stated and legal 
    

 
I beg to differ on that.
 
 explicit - adj.  Fully and clearly expressed; leaving nothing implied.
 
 
  

You're right, I was not explicit.  My statement was actually 'simple'.  That
simple statement carries a lot of implied meanings for most people, but I'm
not like most people.  So that's why I said what I said without wanting to
see it from the 'popular' point of view.  To clarify, I have very little
interest in what is available on TV, Radio, or through Hollywood.  I'm much
more interested in history, arts, science, folk music, world music and
culture.  Most of this is very hard to find, but I think there are volumes
of it that I could collect and share using p2p technologies without running
afoul of any laws.  I'm interested in sites like ibiblio.org and seeing
their numbers grow on the Internet. 

 
You can discuss illegal things all you like, so long as you don't
announce intention to commit a crime, which is generally illegal.  For
example, if you plot to commit a crime with your friends, you need not
even actually attempt the act to be guilty of a crime.  This is called
conspiracy.  If you are dumb enough to announce your intentions to
kill the president, the Secret Service will make your life unpleasant.
If you tell airport security that you intend to bomb a plane, you will
almost certainly be arrested immediately.  You probably won't go to
jail, but you probably will miss your flight.  Though, if you happen
to be carrying anything that might be used to make a bomb...  Well, I
wouldn't want to be you.  
  

Well, I guess Carnivore picked up this thread by now.



certainly possible to exchange materials which do not have copyrights
to which you are not the owner via these file sharing networks;
however I don't think anyone here is naive enough to believe that is
(exclusively) what you intend...
      

You confused me a bit with this wording.  I think you meant to say that 
    

[SNIP]
 
I said precisely what I meant to say.  The sentences I wrote are
grammatically correct and grammatically convey exactly what I meant
them to convey.
  

But you attribute to me motives which I do not have.







Public speeches have copyrights, regardless of the fact that they are
delivered publicly.  There may be some issue of how enforcable the
copyright is in that case; I'm not sure.  Are you?  
 
  

I sounds like you've bought into the notion promulgated by the popular media
that because copyrights are automatically granted, that doing anything
without obtaining and paying for permission is a crime.  Realize that most
people making a public speech have a message that they are intentionally
delivering to a mass audience for mass consumption and re-telling.  If
someone makes a speech on homosexual equality, which is recorded by a friend
in the audience in MP3 format.  Do you think the speaker is more concerned
with 'enforcing his/her rights against pirates' or 'enforcing his/her rights
to equality'?  I don't think the homosexual will sue the friend.  I do think
that you've by now many people think I'm homosexual--but I'm just a regular
guy.





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