discussing flavors of POSIX [was M$ && Sending files back?]
Jerry Feldman
gaf at blu.org
Tue Jun 18 16:18:12 EDT 2002
Well said. I'm going to snip it all since the archives are all online.
Personally, I've been involved with Unix since about 1980, on PDPs and
other systems, most recently Alphas and Itaniums.
A business's goal is always the bottom line. So, what a Unix vendor wants
to do is to not only provide interoperability and portablility but also to
differentiate itself in the marketplace. As PCs became useful as
workstations (Linux and FreeBSD) the commercial Unix workstation market
started drying up. Who wants to buy a Digital (or Compaq or HP ) Alpha
workstation for several thousand when they can get a PC running Linux for
several hundred. Today, with virtual machine technology available, you can
run both Linux and Windows concurrently on one machine costing under $1000.
Linux on the desktop can now provide many of the same tools (same
functionality) that you had with Microsoft. Star Office 6.0 at about $60
vs. MS Office at about $300. So, the commercial Unix market is now on the
high end where Linux is not yet ready. The major commercial Unixes (Tru64,
HP-UX, Solaris, AIX) all scale up in multi-CPU clustering environments with
big Oracle databases. But, even Linux is starting to make its way into
decent multi-CPU environments (eg. more than 4 CPUs). Vendors, such as HP
and IBM are investing very serious $$$$, and those $$$$ are going into
Linux. Why Linux and not BSD, I don't really know. Linux got a very big
boost when AT&T was suing BSDI, although it AT&T won, it would have shut
down Linux and possibly even Minix as well. The popular perception was that
FreeBSD might need to be withdrawn, but since Linux had no AT&T code, that
they could use Linux legally. Perceptions count more than quality in many
cases. Solaris is certainly not the best Unix, but it has the best market
share (which they are starting to lose).
The other issue is that PC vendors are starting to provide Linux PCs.
WalMart for one, but both Dell and HP (Compaq) have also done that in a
small way. Microsoft has been able to push Dell and Compaq since both are
major Windows vendors also.
In any case, in the future, Linux market share is going to continue to grow
at the expense of both Windows as well as commercial Unixes. In a few year,
AIX, Tru64, and Irix will be things of the past. Windows will continue to
host a lions share of the PC market. The only two commercial Unixes will be
Solaris and HP-UX (on Itanium). Tru64 and AIX will remain as legacies for
at least the next 10 years.
On 18 Jun 2002 at 15:44, Bill Bogstad wrote:
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