BBLISA: Re: Overqualified?!?!

[Jerry Feldman]

No, they can be the same union, but they are different jobs. 

In any case, just to end the discussion. Unions exist for good reasons. 
Most of the problems with unions, IMHO, are because unions are 
organizations. In some contexts they can become militant and very 
adversarial, usually because of management practices, but also business 
conditions can be a strong contributor.
Take an industry where jobs are changing (eg. railroads where steam was 
replaced by diesel or automotive where technology replaced many workers). 
In this case you can get the businesses vs. the union as well as the rank 
and file against both.
Arthur Gaer wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2002, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> 
> > Back to my programmer/system admin analogy. The admin union might complain
> > that the programmers are doing jobs that are traditional to admins.
> 
> I don't understand your assumption, though.  Why does there need to be
> separate sysadmin and programmer unions?  Why not just have an overall IT
> professionals union to which both sysadmins and programmers (and dba's and
> helpdesk personnel and so on) belong?
> 
> From my experience it's not uncommon to have conflicts about job
> responsibilities even without unions anywhere nearby ("Why are those
> stupid engineers messing with inetd.conf again?")
> 
> Arthur
> 

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